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  1. I’m a little confused about the no-ploppin thing, though this post might not even apply to my hair. My hair is completely straight when wet, the ends start to curl a little when it dries but otherwise if I don’t do anything it’s straight but with a little sway in it. However if I scrunch it after washing it I can get a pretty good wave pattern in it, and if I diffuse it after that it stays in that shape. Should I not even scrunch my hair when out of the shower?

    1. Gabriella says:

      Hey, sorry for the confusion. Of course you can scrunch your hair, it helps the hair absorb product and encourage curl/wave pattern. Plopping often disrupts the curl pattern and gives wonky waves + curls. Plopping can also cause the hair to become over moisturized if left in for too long. Or soak up the styling products quicker than the wet hair if used too soon after applying the styling products.

  2. I saw this post and wanted to personally thank you. It’s hard to “figure it all out.” I also read your post for winter hair. I live in a northern latitude where the dew point is already low. No matter what I do, my hair is just flatter, and at time static prone, in the winter months. For those of us with fine wavy hair, what is best? What products help for those of us with fine wavy hair during the winter season?

  3. WOW!! I just want to say the biggest THANK YOU ever for all these in depth articles from me and my tired, sad curls – they are bloody GREAT. Beyond helpful and so clear. I have been searching and searching for something like this for YEARS. Knowledge and direction on curly hair that is fine is so flipping hard to find. I’ve finally found gold. Thank you so so much. It’s such a relief.
    Turns out I’ve been doing a lot of things wrong eeep. Thank FRIGGING GOSH lol. There’s hope for my hair yet!! Tomorrow I’m ordering all brand new stuff that you’ve recommended. n________n

  4. Hi!
    I went on a deep dive and now have figured out I have been using all the wrong products for my fine curly hair. WAYY over moisturizing, shampooing, and clarifying too much! Also have only been using heavy creams to style my hair for years. I have filled my carts up with the products you recommended and am determined to get this right. Thanks so much for putting these posts together! I just have one question. How often would you recommend using a protein treatment? I don’t want to overdo that as well!

    1. Curl Maven Assistant says:

      Glad you found the info helpful! As far as the protein treatments go, there isn’t a one size fits all of how often you should do it because everyone’s protein needs will be different. Just go by what your hair is feeling like to determine when and how often you should do it.
      Below are some protein/moisture balance blogs that might help you!

      Good luck!

  5. Hi Gabrielle
    Both the mousse’s you recommend are out of stock. I think the Pantene might be discontinued. Do you have another recommendation please? I follow all your advise and my hair wouldn’t be what it is today without you and I am so confused as to which mousse to use now I can’t get Pantene Define Curls.
    Thank you as always

    1. Curl Maven says:

      Hey there! I am gathering info on getting a blog post together with substitutions to the Pantene Mouse.

  6. Thanks so much for your insights. My curly regime just stopped working abruptly, and my curls were flagging. I used the Ion Hard Water Shampoo and noticed an immediate improvement.

    I’m looking forward to updating my entire hair care regime.

    1. Curl Maven says:

      You’re welcome! I’m glad to hear that using the Ion Hard Water Shampoo made a noticeable improvement in your curls.

  7. I run 2-3 miles at least 3 days a week. Long story on how a person who hates exercise got to this point, it started with my kids! But now I feel really good, and my cholesterol is better than it was in my 20’s…..so the running is happening. Which means the hair is getting washed. A lot more than I see you advising. Should I be using the chelating shampoo more often due to all the salt I’m dumping into my hair? Should I deep condition more frequently because I’m shampooing more frequently? I’ve always had super snarly hair, which I’ve always thought was dry hair. I’m looking forward to trying all these products you’ve listed! Thank you so much for all these great tips!

  8. Hey Gabriella, just a heads up that the Boucleme gel link points to the Aveda product!

    1. Gabriella says:

      Ah! Thanks so much Jessica!!! All fixed now x

  9. Curly millennial says:

    Thank you for this wonderful resource for fine haired curlys! 15 years ago, I had this head of ultra fine, curly hair that I loved. But over the years, my curls just seemed to stop holding and my hair fell flat. I thought it was my hair just changing with age, and I started wearing blow outs.

    After reading this blog, I realized that 15 years ago, I started using higher quality products…that were completely the wrong products for my hair type. So, today, I did a clarifying shampoo with a light styling foam…and my curls are back! I am shocked and beyond ecstatic!!!

    And now I have a daughter with the same hair type as me. Now that I finally understand my hair, I can’t wait to teach her how to properly care for and love her beautiful curls.

    Thank you thank you thank you!!!!!

    1. Curl Maven says:

      I’m glad you found my post helpful for your fine hair!

  10. Hello! I’ve had the gorgeous pleasure of a curl clinic with you and 2yrs on I’m still doing as you recommended! I’d like to reduce plastic in my bathroom and I’ve noticed a couple of shampoo/conditioner bars claiming to be curly girl approved. Are there any you’d recommend? Thanks

  11. Have you noticed that Pantene has changed the formula for their mousse? There’s a big difference in texture and it doesn’t give me the curl it used to. Super disappointing since this has been a go to product for years.

    1. Curl Maven says:

      I’m currently working on putting together a blog post for Pantene mousse substitutions!

  12. Salonsuitespb says:

    Giovanni Smooth As Silk Conditioner is the best conditioner for me. I tried this a lot.

  13. Aesthethouse says:

    These certainly are the best products. Thank you for sharing.

  14. hi! Would these product be good for someone with a permanent wave? Thank you for the blog and all the super helpful information.

    1. Curl Maven says:

      Hey there! The products in blog post would be good for permeant waves too!

  15. Thank you for such great information as I start my CG journey!
    I appreciate the multiple product recommendations.
    I’ve tried to sign up for your mailing list and keep receiving an error.
    I don’t want to miss anything.

  16. super blog post with lots of great info, just wondering would any if the products be suitable for a child’s fine wavy hair? thanks

    1. Gabriella says:

      absolutely, all of them are! I’ve also got a blog post on the how to care for kids curly hair on the blog too if you want to check that out x

  17. Curly in PA says:

    Reading through these fine hair tips and the 2 back posts from the series I noticed a few things – first, you are one of the only people I have seen acknowledge that fine hair can be high density, which I sincerely appreciate. I struggle to find fine hair tips that are not also for low density (using a pea amount of gel is laughable for me). Secondly, I do not have extremely fine hair, but I have fine-ish, very silky hair (tangles?? what are those???), and I have found that many recommendations for fine hair also work to combat the silkiness. Thirdly, I truly appreciate the detail on these products and the use thereof. If I had found this at the beginning (which wasn’t possible without a time machine) I would have saved myself a lot of trial and error. It is nice to see a lot of the things I have learned on my own verified here! I must be doing something right 🙂 The one product I would recommend that is not on here is the Hask Keratin Leave-in – Heat protection and lots of protein, I’m finding it perfect in the summer when I need something really light weight. Great budget option too 🙂

    1. Gabriella says:

      Thanks so much! It’s always so lovely to hear that someone is finding your content helpful, and to confirm what you’ve already experienced to be true. And oh my goodness, Hask…..I remember using a few of their products when they first came out and my hair was super damaged and they were actually quite good. So I must check them out again. Where do you get them from? I only ever saw them in Penneys/Primark, but I don’t think I’ve seen them in a while…